InterCity Visit 2014 in more than 140 characters
There's been quite a bit of great Tweeting about the InterCity Visit to Athens, GA. Still, there may be some of you out there who'd like to provide a little more context about what you have been learning. Please use this thread to do so. Travis and I will be posting some thoughts here as well.
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Social enterprise; local food system; bikes
I set up a few of my own activities and here is a smattering of my impressions and/or learnings:
UNC bike share
Bike share is happening at UNC. A student group started Tar Heel Bikes, which provides about 30 bikes to members who live in residence halls. Earlier this year, its leaders made a presentation to the former Town Biccyle and Pedestrian Advisory Board and laid out their long-term plans, which include an expansion of the service campus-wide, implementation of a technological mechanism to enable the expansion beyond residence halls, and eventual expansion into the areas surrounding the campus. I'm not sure what their status is now, however.
Off-topic, I just spent several days at a conference in Minneapolis and got to take several trips on their bike share system. It's such a great mobility tool for urban areas.
Development Process
One of the big takeaways I've had on this trip is how differently Athens handles community engagement, particularly as it relates to the development process. Athens made a choice in the early 2000s to create a comprehensive land use and zoning plan, meaning that many developments became by-right developments, greatly reducing the timeline for development and the number of permits that require approval from their elected governing board. It's very interesting to observe how a very different development process can work well for a town, and I think it's very useful for us to think about how development works in other communities and how successful alternative approaches can be.
Convention Center?
On the Inter-City Visit to Bloomington in 2012, Meg McGurk challenged the community to build a convention center in downtown Chapel Hill within ten years. Bloomington saw a significant increase in meetings and visitor spending after building their center. Downtown Athens has The Classic Center, a major center that includes a theatre, ice skating rink, and large and small meeting rooms. I think it's time we had a conversation about the lack of space for meetings and conferences in Chapel Hill, and if a convention center is a tool we need in Orange County.
Convention Center
In Bloomington, it's very likely that the Cook family played a role in funding the convention center. The late William Cook was one of America's richest citizens. He gave to both Indiana University and to Bloomington. Chapel Hill and Orange don't appear to have a parallel to Cook and his family. The great bulk of the philanthropic funds for major building go to UNC-CH enterprises, all of them worthy. University meeting spaces appear to be well used for university functions. The newest meeting spaces in Orange are not near the largest centers of population, other than the CH Public Library. All this should be considered in any conversation.
Key take-aways from ICV2014 participants
During our wrap-up session participants shared the following things they will take away from our two days in Athens, GA.
These sound very Chapel Hill-centric
I know there were Carrboro and Orange County officials on the trip. Were there any key take-awaysfrom those individuals?
No to a convention center
Convention centers are generally terrible investments for the communities that make them. See http://www.washingtonpost.com/business/steven-pearlstein-debunking-the-c... and this older study by the Brookings Institute http://www.brookings.edu/research/reports/2005/01/01cities-sanders
A few more takeaways
I've been thinking a bit more about Athens since we've returned, and I thought I'd add a few more things to what's listed above that I think we can learn from:
I'll continue to think about Athens, but I thought I would at least put these observations I had out for discussion.
Not just Carrboro Bicycle Coalition
The CBC has been joined in this area by Bicycle Advocates for Chapel Hill (BACH), meeting tonight at Whole Foods at 6:30. Bike Durham has organized itself enough to be a player in neighborhood bicycle politics at the City Council level. And the statewide advocacy group on whose board I sit, Bike Walk NC, has as its main goal this fall the hiring of an executive director. Governor McCrory has not offered any assistance. His four-stop airplane tour this week, touting projects for areas outside our main metro areas, could have paid for a whole lot of bicycle facilities. But it mostly focused on rural NC, where the Republican base lives.
I was interested in Athen's
I was interested in Athen's convention center, especially as it was right downtown. But in thinking about putting one in our area, cannot think of a place where there is land enough to build one. Let alone a site that would allow for adequate parking for conventioneers and is 'downtown.'
The most interesting comment came from Greenville, SC. They discovered a lovely waterfall along a small river--it had been covered up by a highway bridge for decades. They took stock of their area's special features, and re-discovered the waterfall. They removed the bridge, made the waterfall the centerpiece of a park area, and it created a wonderful place for people to play as well as a draw for business.
What is our special feature?? What do we have and what could we create? We have no waterfeature or mountain view or beach. We have some lovely creeks, a resevoir, some hills--after all the name of the town is Chapel Hill. I would also dare to suggest that we not try to repeat what has been done by Durham or Raleigh. We need to set up something different and special, something not available at other local venues. Can we create something new around some of our festivals, or special events? Put little Eiffel Towers all over Carrboro? I know there are a lot of creative people out there who can come up with better ideas than mine. What can we do that sets us apart?
The next thing of note to me was the comment from a Hillsborough Town councilman--why do we have to make repeated trips out of town to re-discover what we need to work on? We know what we need to work on. We hear the same comments every time---our permitting and approval processes are too long. Why have they not yet been changed??? This is one place where we seem unable to take a risk (another thing we all noted these towns did). Why can we not take a risk and shorten our processes and cut the costs of our application fees?? Are we to be forever held hostage by a small group that does not want to see any change at all, ever? Life is growth, stagnation is death. How many people are willing to support our town and county reps if they want to make a change in this?? Form-based code is a step in the right direction. We should not spend years working on every single application.
We elect people to make these decisions for them but then the community jumps in and wants to micromanage every single thing. CH once had a 2 hour discussion on where to place a mail box at University Mall--things of that nature should be left to staff. Micromanaging is not always appropriate. Growth is coming. We cannot stop it. All we can do is make plans to guide it along the lines we feel most comfortable with.
Words can not adequately
Words can not adequately express how much I agree with everything in Vicki's last paragraph.
Contradictions
Saying "All we can do is make plans to guide it along the lines we feel most comfortable with" after denigrating those who do say what makes them feel most comfortable is a contradiction. We live in a unique community. What's wrong with people wanting it to stay unique? I strongly object to the oft-repeated meme that there is a small group who are stopping progress/growth. There are people on both sides of the growth debate and that debate does not need to breakdown into divisiveness. We are a more intelligent and progressive community than that.
Greenville is a lovely town. I lived there as it was beginning to redevelop in the mid-1980s. But I can assure you there is nothing that would make me want to move back and live there again. Athens is a fun town, but again, I wouldn't want to live there. Visitors see the positive sides of a community--tour leaders put out their best stories as any loyal citizen would want to do. But I heard from at least one person on the tour that there were some very negative aspects to what the group saw.
I do agree with you about the convention center. Why in the world we want to do that to our community?
A modest proposal
I've made this suggestion periodically for about the last 25 years. It's just a thought.Take a risk!
Booker Creek has been forced under the land that Eastgate Shopping Center occupies. It floods frequently. Imagine removing Eastgate and creating a lake. Imagine an outdoor performance venue as well as an open gathering space for public events. Imagine paddleboats, ducks, food trucks, buskers ... Imagine creative deveopment on the fringes of this park.
What's wrong with making our
What's wrong with making our community more unique?
Change is not always bad.
FBC, Convention Centers and Development
Form based code is a fantastic opportunity to shift away from conditional zoning to "by right" zoning. Developer projects that fit should sail through. I'd love to see form based code in the county - especially in and around the economic development districts in Efland and ENO.
But there's no magic. It takes time to think through the rezoning (upzoning presumably) and its ramifications. Planners can leverage local assets, plan greenspaces and other amenities, and assess overall impacts on transportation and the environment. Now we rehash these issues with every project - without the benefit of the whole picture, and always at the expense of the developer and the taxpayer.
If I'm reading the comments correctly, Athens leaders first rezoned the city working with their citizens. Developers can participate, but developer projects are not an alternative to zoning. Done well, rezoning can create excitement and enthusiasm around change.
Consider Obey Creek - a project proposed under a new vision for density, commercial development, and growth for an area that is currently zoned single family residential. Wouldn't Athens first work with its citizens to rezone the entire area, and integrate it with the adjacent areas (in this case Southern Village and surrounding neighborhoods)? Then it's easier to approve any project that fits the zoning.
I'm confused by the conversation about convention center. When I hear "convention center", I think Javitts Center in NYC or McCormack Center in Chicago. These venues support large scale trade shows attracting visitors from all over. Theres no shortage of local meeting spaces. Did Athens build a convention center or a community center?
Convention Center
Athens built a convention center, although it's definitley not as big as the McCormack Center.
Athen ICV Learnings
I’ve have gone on the last two inter-city visits and found them tremendously useful and productive. Speaking for myself, I have found clear lessons to be learned from the way other towns deal with land use planning and the development review process. Other towns also deal with football games and other sources of town-gown friction in ways that I think we could learn from. And I know others have been taken by the potential desirability of a convention center and ways in which bikeways and linear parks can be developed from unused railroad tracks.
But I have also learned something important in a different way on these trips and that is how much we here in Chapel Hill and Carrboro get right. We have the largest fare-free transit system in the nation. We have been leaders in protecting the environment. And we are leaders in our commitment to social and economic justice.
So as we think about past and future trips, we should keep in mind that they are terrific for learning from other places. But they are equally terrific for learning about ourselves.