Election Day is finally here. This is an open thread to discuss. What's going on out there?
Update: the page to watch for results is http://www.co.orange.nc.us/elect/2007Municipal
Issues:
Election Day is finally here. This is an open thread to discuss. What's going on out there?
Update: the page to watch for results is http://www.co.orange.nc.us/elect/2007Municipal
Issues:
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BTW, results will be posted
BTW, results will be posted at http://www.co.orange.nc.us/elect/2007Municipal/ as they become available from the county. Look for some awesome electoral maps from Damon Seils in the next couple of days.
#426 at Carrboro Town Hall
#426 at Carrboro Town Hall just now. Saw Dan Coleman there.
At 6:35 I was the 3rd voter
At 6:35 I was the 3rd voter at Chapel Hill Bible Church. Two other voters came in behind me. Someone was setting up a chair and a sign for Matt Czajkowski but there were no other candidate supporters working this site at this early hour. Also, Kevin Wolfe had one of his color photo signs at the bottom of the drive.
I voted at Scroggs at about
I voted at Scroggs at about 8:45 and was 97th on that counting machine. Only one person in front, giving out Go Green flyers.
I was #53 at Carrboro
I was #53 at Carrboro Elementary just before 9:00. There were six or seven campaign workers outside, which is admirable seeing as how it's too late to influence many voters' decisions.
I was the 65th voter at Town
I was the 65th voter at Town Hall around 9:30.
105th Voter at 12:15pm at
105th Voter at 12:15pm at Carrboro
At 9:45am at McDougle Middle
At 9:45am at McDougle Middle School, spouse and I were 39th and 40th voters....
This is the one part I miss
This is the one part I miss about having voted early...
Maybe I'll go visit a poll site and get some free cookies anyway. ;-)
I just voted at the
I just voted at the Patterson precinct location (12:30 p.m.), which is the fire station on Whitfield Road. I was #126 and my husband #127. Patterson precinct is the second largest precinct in Orange County. One or two other people showed up while we voted. Not sure about that 35% turnout that someone was quoting in the news. I'd be very surprised.
I was voter 201 at Durham
I was voter 201 at Durham County Precinct 27, Creekside School around 11 a.m. It is one of the most interesting precincts: they have voters for three different jurisdictions. One is for CH Town/Durham County, one for Durham City/Durham County and the third for folks who just live in unincorporated Durham County. No way to tell how many from each area had voted, but the poll workers, a number of them BOE veterans, were amazed at the turn-out, way higher than they would have predicted.
Linda C.
I walked my son to school at
I walked my son to school at Carrboro Elem at 7:45 and passed the gauntlet of Chilton and Cook, along with a Lavelle campaigner. I made it through relatively unscathed though dissapointed to not see any free coffee. I always like Carrboro Elem b/c it gives the illusion of more people voting (though most are like me - just taking their kids to school...). I went and voted at Lions Club at 9 am and steered clear of the gauntlet again not citing any coffee or cookies... Say whatever you want about "issues" and "policy", but I did enjoy Katrina's coffee last time around. :)
I just voted at Homestead -
I just voted at Homestead - when I walked in the counting machine was beeping an alarm. The worker checked the ballot sticking out, someone had over-voted. The worker decided to go find the person (not thinking there was no way to verify whose ballot it actually was). The search was fruitless so a couple workers decided to invalidate the ballot - to do so the ballot must be stuck in the machine and then the worker tells the machine to invalidate it. When the worker stuck it in the machine, the machine counted it! The worker scratched his head and said "oh well".
This did not inspire confidence - as the woman behind me said, "Its like a shredder".
Good thing there were no party lines on this one.
Hmm... no real surprises
Hmm... no real surprises yet, except the turnout seems higher than I had guessed.
... especially Weaver Dairy
... especially Weaver Dairy Satellite, which right now is reporting 146% turnout (656 of 447 voters).
My wife and I were voters
My wife and I were voters 255 and 256 at Ephesus Elementary. We got there a little after 7pm and wondered if the polling station was still open -- NO lights were on AT ALL. We wandered to the front and found three campaigners who thoughtfully directed us around the side to the new voting area (not the main entrance as in previous years). Had the three not been there, we would not have had a clue and may not have voted! Of course, this wasn't the fault of the polling volunteers, but let's hope we can round up some tiki torches or candle bags next time!
I'm glad I qualified by
I'm glad I qualified by statement above with "yet." Cam Hill is only up by 30 votes with Cedar Falls not yet reporting? I didn't see this coming...
The tally page now has Cam
The tally page now has Cam Hill down by 27 votes. Wow. I am surprised.
The gap between Czajkowski
The gap between Czajkowski and Hill is now up to 61 votes.
I understand Cam will be
I understand Cam will be talking with the Board of Elections, maybe even tonight, about initiating a recount. It certainly seems warranted in this case, maybe even required (I can't remember what the threshold is).
From the NC General
From the NC General Statutes:
§ 163‑182.7. Ordering recounts.
(a) Discretionary Recounts. – The county board of elections or the State Board of Elections may order a recount when necessary to complete the canvass in an election. The county board may not order a recount where the State Board of Elections has already denied a recount to the petitioner.
(b) Mandatory Recounts for Ballot Items Within the Jurisdiction of the County Board of Elections. – In a ballot item within the jurisdiction of the county board of elections, a candidate shall have the right to demand a recount of the votes if the difference between the votes for that candidate and the votes for a prevailing candidate is not more than one percent (1%) of the total votes cast in the ballot item, or in the case of a multiseat ballot item not more than one percent (1%) of the votes cast for those two candidates. The demand for a recount must be made in writing and must be received by the county board of elections by 5:00 P.M. on the first business day after the canvass. The recount shall be conducted under the supervision of the county board of elections.
(c) Mandatory Recounts for Ballot Items Within the Jurisdiction of the State Board of Elections. – In a ballot item within the jurisdiction of the State Board of Elections, a candidate shall have the right to demand a recount of the votes if the difference between the votes for that candidate and the votes for a prevailing candidate are not more than the following:
(1) For a nonstatewide ballot item, one percent (1%) of the total votes cast in the ballot item, or in the case of a multiseat ballot item, one percent (1%) of the votes cast for those two candidates.
(2) For a statewide ballot item, one‑half of one percent (0.5%) of the votes cast in the ballot item, or 10,000 votes, whichever is less.
The demand for a recount must be in writing and must be received by the State Board of Elections by noon on the second business day after the county canvass. If at that time the available returns show a candidate not entitled to a mandatory recount, but the Executive Director determines subsequently that the margin is within the threshold set out in this subsection, the Executive Director shall notify the eligible candidate immediately and that candidate shall be entitled to a recount if that candidate so demands within 48 hours of notice. The recount shall be conducted under the supervision of the State Board of Elections.
(d) Rules for Conducting Recounts. – The State Board of Elections shall promulgate rules for conducting recounts. Those rules shall be subject to the following guidelines:
(1) The rules shall specify, with respect to each type of voting system, when and to what extent the recount shall consist of machine recounts and hand‑to‑eye recounts. Hand‑to‑eye recounts shall also be ordered as provided by G.S. 163‑182.7A.
(2) The rules shall provide guidance in interpretation of the voter's choice.
(3) The rules shall specify how the goals of multipartisan participation, opportunity for public observation, and good order shall be balanced. (2001‑398, s. 3; 2003‑278, ss. 10(b), 10(c); 2005‑323, s. 6(a); 2005‑428, s. 11(b).)
Well it was certainly a
Well it was certainly a strange night. For the longest time Cam was up about 230 votes with just Cedar Falls and the Durham precincts left to report. When we first called Durham to ask for their numbers they said they wouldn't give them to us until tomorrow morning! But then they called back and gave them to us and were very nice. Cam was down 64 there and we had the tape from Cedar Falls and knew he was down 69 there so we totalled it up and Cam was up by a little under 100 but all the votes were in and we certainly didn't care about the margin, we won!
Then about 15 minutes later somewhat hit reload on the computer and it turned out the Weaver Dairy Satellite numbers, which had seemed too good to be true, were indeed too good to be true. Recalculating the situation Cam was down by 39 votes.
About half an hour later we hit reload again and all the sudden there had been a huge shift in the Post Office early voting numbers for Chapel Hill that had reduced Cam's deficit to 27 votes. But Sally Greene had something like 575 votes when fewer than that many people voted in the Chapel Hill election at the Post Office.
So things seemed so bizarre that Cam, his son, Bill Strom, Merle Thorpe and I drove up to Hillsborough to figure out what was going on in person. When we got there Barry Garner gave us a printout showing Cam with a one vote margin of victory!
There were about five minutes of excitement until we figured out the discrepancy was that the total didn't include the Durham numbers, which when added in put Cam down 63. Also, the early voting numbers had been incorrect but were corrected.
We have no idea how the margin went from 39 with all precincts reporting to 63. Some other precinct must have had its numbers change while we were driving from Chapel Hill to Hillsborough.
So we will see what happens with the provisional ballots and it will also be interesting to see if there turn out to have been any more miscalculations. Many folks will remember that the result of the School Board election changed after two days in 2003.
So the Board of Elections I'm sure will do due dilgence in the next week to make sure that all the votes are counted correctly for the final tally.
It is amazing to be going through this again after Adam Stein's campaign last year. I seem to have an affinity for getting involved with elections that never end...
Hang in there, Tom. :-)
Hang in there, Tom. :-)
Thanks for letting us know. It's even closer than it initially seemed!
someone should try to attend
someone should try to attend the random "post election audits" and see if a discrepancy comes up in the audited precincts.
Also, see what "trouble reports" there are.
The issues with this election sound really odd - was the problem with the central tabulator or with individual voting machines.
The good thing is that you have a real paper ballot that can be recounted.
Please let us know what happens.
BTW, I voted at Scroggs at
BTW, I voted at Scroggs at 7:55 and there were a number of people there for various candidates. I had both kids in tow so I just kept my head down and went inside without chatting. Bora says above that by 8:45 there was only Sally Greene supporters. I imagine that means they came to catch people at drop-off and left afterwards.