Police statement published today by the Carrboro Citizen:
On Thursday, December 11th, the Chapel Hill Police responded to a traffic crash on N.C. 54 west of the South Columbia Street Bridge. Seven pedestrians were reportedly crossing the roadway at approximately 10:30 PM. Four of the pedestrians had made it to the median and three were struck by an eastbound vehicle. One person, a female, was pronounced dead at the scene and two others were transported to UNC Hospital for treatment of their non-life threatening injuries.
- http://www.carrborocitizen.com/main/2008/12/12/pedestrian-killed-at-south-columbia-street-bridge/
Highlighting yet again the need to make our town more walkable.
Issues:
Comments
Hwy 54 underpass
There's also a pedestrian/bicycle underpass on Hwy 54 right around the area of the Friday Center and Meadowmont.
I agree with Mark
No. Absolutely no way could a pedestrian overpass cost 2.5 million. That's the sort of figure that could be inflated nineteen different ways if somebody really wanted to ... but even so I can't imagine where 2.5 came from. Some NC-DOT numbers cruncher simply doesn't want to encumber one. This has me wondering how much the two pedestrian bridges from the UNC Hospitals parking deck cost. They're quite elaborate, much more elaborate than a "simple" pedestrian overpass but not built by DOT. The painted ped crossings with warning cones have made a big difference in Carrboro. The danger zones cited above are all heavy jay-walker territory in the vicinity of apartment complexes and bus stops. it's very hard to measure scampering speed vs. automotive speed on a four-lane thorofare with no light. (Rush hour on Manning Drive has practically zero visibility due to sun glare. I'm surprised there haven't been more accidents at 8:30 a.m. and 5:00 p.m.)
Pedestrian fatality/safety on 54 Bypass by the Carolina Apts
The woman who was killed had a Carolina Apts address as her residence. I did not know her, but I do know and visit some people who live in the Carolina Apts on Hwy 54W. There is no stop light by these apts, so to get to the other side, any person must cross the divided highway with cars streaming by. The first time I saw the layout, it was clear there was an accident waiting to happen. Many residents in these apts walk everywhere, even to the Food Lion off the Jones Ferry exit. I have seen mothers holding the hands of their small children while hauling bags from Food Lion and walking up the entrance ramp to 54E. Then they walk along the edge of the Bypass itself, then run across 54 when they think the coast is clear. For this particular area, a stop light would be a step in the right direction and a way (not perfect) to make this crossing safer.
Pedestrian fatality/safety on 54 Bypass by the Carolina Apts-mor
By a stop light, I meant one (two?) that halted traffic in both directions at the same time. There is no place to stand if you get between the east & west lanes.
We can ask
We can ask, but NCDOT is stingy with their stoplights. Hopefully they will be more interested given all the rcent events.
Ped overpasses on campus
To illustrate the cost and its consequences:Linda, what is the latest on the two planned pedestrian overpasses over South Road, one at Fetzer Gym and one at Kenan Chemistry tower? Are they going to be built?
At Least Both Are Still On the Books
Joe,From the University's current Construction website:Bell Tower Development (formerly Science Phase III) Phase 2A
10/01/2007
$231,510,206.00
Project
is a mixed use development that exemplifies many of the key ideas of
the Campus Master Plan. The program for the Bell Tower Development
includes a 710 car parking deck, a 25 thousand-ton chilled water plant
and a new Genome Science Laboratory Building which will provide
approximately 210,000 square feet of modern classrooms, laboratories
and offices including nine we labs, four bioinformatics labs, a 250
seat lecture hall , a 450 seat lecture hall, an 80 seat classroom, and
four 30 seat seminar rooms, serving faculty, post-doctoral fellsws,
techni8cians, graduate students and undergradurates. In addition, an
elevated pedestrian walkway will link the Wilson-Dey Building, located
north of South Road, with the Sonya Haynes Stone Center, the Bell Tower
Development, Fordham Hall, and Medical Drive. The project also will
construct a new road running from the southern end of the project south
to Manning Drive, and will provide for substantial storm water
mitigation for the campus. Dental Sciences Building
05/12/2008
$125,539,260.00
Approximately
216,000 SF of instructional, research, and academic/research support
spaces. The complex shall be sited on the northeast corner of Manning
and South Columbia. The project will require the decommissioning and
demolition of the existing Dental Office and Dental Research Buildings
(approx. 54,000 SF) and renovations to porto Will be sited in such a
manner to allow for a pedestrian bridge to cross over Manning Drive and
connect the new complex to Thurston Bowles.
Is there a place....
Choosing a "fix" for a place where pedestrians routinely cross the road can depend on the site - an overpass isn't necessarily the best option. Some places might indeed warrant a light and crosswalk; some might warrant an overpass (some of the campus sites, perhaps) but awareness of accessibility has to be part of the equation; and in some cases, there might be no better alternative than a fence, unsightly as it might be. Others with a little more creativity than I have can probably come up with other alternatives - perhaps more driver-oriented than pedestrian-oriented - but, again, it depends on where the problem site is. Otherwise, is there a place where we can register chronically hazardous areas - where we repeatedly see pedestrians crossing where there's no crosswalk or the nearest one is unacceptably distant from an obvious destination such as a bus stop or a strip mall? Two areas I'd nominate are: on MLK opposite the Shadowood apartments - there's a bus stop for campus-bound buses but it's halfway between the Estes and Piney Mtn. lights, which are a pretty good hike from each other; and -as Tom observed above - across the beginning of East Franklin, between the split with 15-501 and the Eastgate light
Differing goals
As long as DOT controls all decisions about roadways, I don't see how anything is going to change. Their mission is to facilitate the smooth flow of traffic. While Installing traffic signals, lowering the speed limits are great for pedestrians but they are at odds with the DOT mission, as well as anything that takes funding away from more and bigger lanes such as additional bus stops, pedestrian bridges, etc. It's always about money. Is $2.5 million for a bridge more important than the lives it could save? Joe--as far as I know the only pedestrian bridge planned for campus that has any funding behind it connects the area from Thurston Bowles to Dental Sciences. It's part of the Dental Sciences building renovation that is currently underway.
correctly focused outrage
Here's a typical example of NCDOT's perspective on these issues. This happens to be just the first example that Google turned up for me, but it is one of many such exchanges between area local governments and NCDOT.This is part of a letter (4/19/2006) to the Chapel Hill Town Manager from the NCDOT Regional Traffic Safety Engineer:"Regarding the January 23, 2006 crash on US 15-501 at Bennett Road, low visibility also appears to be one of the contributing factors. The pedestrian was attempting to cross US 15-501 against the traffic signal from west to east. The crash occurred after nightfall and the pedestrian was wearing dark clothing. "Our on-site investigation revealed US 15-501 is a four-lane divided facility with a posted speed limit of 45 mile per hour. Bennett Road, a two-lane, two-way secondary road, and Arlen Park Drive, a local street, intersect US 15-501 from the east and west, respectively, to form a four-leg at-grade intersection. The intersection is signalized and provides left turn lanes on all approaches. The pavement and pavement markings were noted to be in good condition. Sidewalks are available for pedestrian use on the west side of the US 15-501 and on both sides of Arlen Park Drive. No overhead intersection lighting was observed. No marked crosswalks or pedestrian signals were observed."During the period October 1, 1995 through September 30, 2005, the North Carolina Crash Database revealed no bicycle or pedestrian related crashes at or within 150 feet of the intersection."We concur with the Town’s decision to install street lighting in the area. Roadway lighting should positively affect the safety of all road users. The lack of crash history in the 10 years prior to this crash suggests pedestrians are able to safely cross at this intersection. Pedestrian volumes currently do not meet the warrants established in the Manual on Uniform Traffic Control Devices for pedestrian signals. Pedestrian signals and marked crosswalks are not recommended at this time."entire letter: http://townhall.townofchapelhill.org/agendas/2006/05/22/5c/5c-2_04-19-2006_state_ltr_re_3_crash_sites.pdf
My disappointment
(not really outrage) is that this problem has been going on for so long. Governments seem to be incapable of working together to solve this obvious issue. In fact they seem to purposely circumvent and frustrate each other with territorial imperative and path of least resistance decisions.Let us not forget that the university is a state institution and has a stake in this as well, because its employees and students are put at risk.Predictably, the CHP are out there and the only ones that do *anything* by enforcing the speed limit. I am not criticizing them, but we all know that speed enforcement is not the long term solution. I think there are only one or two possible long term solutions that make sense. A fence as some have suggested, a crosswalk (which to me is the minimum) or an overpass/underpass, which to some is a gold plated Cadillac.
I am new, so pardon if this
I am new, so pardon if this is covered elsewhere. My understanding from the above thread is that we don't have local control over most of the roadways--but what about planning ahead and doing something now for the roadways that we do have control over now but might not have control over later ?
For example, Weaver Dairy Road Extension is still under local control, right? Couldn't we put crosswalks (if not speed tables) up and down it (where people already cross back and forth all the time for a variety of reasons not the least is taking the garbage out or visiting betwixt subdivisions, getting to the park via Vineyard Square, etc.) and put a three way stop at the Homestead entrance, where visibility is so poor and traffic so fast that accidents are invited? Couldn't we do this before the road is taken over by DOT?
NCDOT Holds Most of the Cards
As someone who has worked professionally in transportation in the Triangle for some time now, I can tell you that George and Mark are correct in their assessments. I can also tell you that there are plenty of thoughtful people at NCDOT who are looking for more creative solutions for our roads, streets, and bridges that are friendlier to bicyclists, pedestrians, and transit users. Unfortunately, they are still quite the minority, and too few of these bright individuals are in key decisionmaking roles at this time. To TBlake and others who feel strongly motivated about this topic, I encourage you to attend the next MPO meeting in Durham. The meeting will be at 9 AM on January 14th in Durham City Hall. There is a parking deck across the street and you can catch a bus to within a pleasant 5-6 block walk from Morgan Street. You may also wish to take a look at the latest draft of the Long Range Transportation Plan, the governing document for all transportation improvements made within the MPO that are not locally funded (like the Carrboro sidewalk bonds). You can find the latest LRTP on this webpage, under the December 10 agenda-- it is items 6 and 6B. It will be voted on for final approval in January at the meeting on the 14th.
How was.....
Durham able to get a bridge over I-40? (see my comment above)I may attend. Thank you Patrick.
Public Meetings, DOT, and the future
One can only hope that the upcoming economic stimulus package, inasumuch as it targets public works, goes toward public transportation projects instead of new roads. The local light rail system is ready to go, for example. That would be far preferable to funding finishing I-540, for example. This will help in the usual areas (reducing dependency on foreign oil, etc.) while also helping save pedestrians and drivers as well, while improving our quality of life.
Looks like
..........Raleigh is being proactive......http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/4149936/
Clarification
Let me offer some clarifications. The rail system is not "ready to go" at this time. WeaverGuy is correct that as a region, we do have a lot of work completed on a rail system that can be re-used. However, there are a few reasons why it is not something that be immediately be put out for construction. The first is that the environmental work along the line would need to be updated in accordance with federal law. The second (and perhaps most compelling reason) is that some key pieces still need important and carefully considered design work. The best example of this is the area where three rail lines meet in downtown Raleigh, known as the Boylan Wye. This is an area of exceptional engineering complexity with different owners and operators of existing track, including both freight and passenger rail. Design in this area (and some others) is not 100% complete. The third reason is that the MPOs are now leaning towards using electric-powered light rail as the rail technology of choice in the region. The previous project was designed around the use of a different vehicle, the diesel multiple unit train. Assuming the MPOs affirmatively choose light rail, there will need to be several legal and regulatory discussions with Norfolk Southern and the North Carolina Railroad, as well as the Federal Railroad Administration, to approve the use of light rail.Several of the transit agencies, including those in the Triangle, at the request of NCDOT, have provided lists of potential projects that are "ready to go" that Congress could fund, including expanding bus and vanpool fleets, extending weekend and holiday services, etc. Finally, Streetsblog cites a Washington Post article that provides a flavor of the general nature of the stimulus requests heading to Washington right now.
Old D / Old CH
Would that include the proposed cycling improvements to Old Durham and Old Chapel Hill Roads? Surely that project is "shovel ready"...
The point remains
OK, I stand corrected. None of these issues are insurmountable and could be surmounted quickly if it were made clear that the funds were within grasp. The point is we need public transportation infrastructure a lot more than we need more highways. Yes, the bridges should be repaired and made safe. But, no we do not need more roads when what we need is more public transportation that weans us off of foreign oil, reduces greenhouse gases, etc. etc. We can hope for atomic cars, hydrogen powered cars, cellulosic ethanol and all the rest, but there are things we actually know how to do now, and we need to get going on them. Yes, build the bike and pedestrian paths also!
Shovel Ready
All local governments are looking at these issues. In Carrboro, we are in contact with our delegation and our lobbying orgs re: sidewalks, fire station and some other capital projects that are shovel-ready.
Shovel ready with Chapel Hill?
Mark-Before you are ready with shovels: I hope that Carrboro will consider working with Chapel Hill for a coordinated plan that addresses the pedestrian issues on HWY 54 Bypass from S Columbia St to the Carolina Apts. In addition, I would like to suggest that the Carrboro police attempt to identify a safe way for residents of the nearby apartments (like Carolina Apts and Kingswood) to come and go from Food Lion & the shopping center on Jones Ferry. Then they could meet with the residents and discuss this. Many refugees live in these apartments and navigating the way from home to food shopping is highly problematic and very new territory.
The Potential Impact of Stimulus Going to Cities, Not States
Terrific article on Streetsblog today about the differences in providing stimulus money to states versus providing it to cities, towns, and MPOs. While some of the commenters rightly point out that other states do not line up with the article's general thesis, NC fits it to a tee.
A little daylight on the list, please
Bloomberg News reports that Bracken Hendricks, an adviser to the presidential-transition team says "Clean energy is going to be a foundation for rebuilding the American economy." Generating jobs in concert with cutting pollution will be "a major component" of any economic-recovery plan. Meanwhile, Governor Easley, today, sent a letter to NC's congressional delegation urging them to get started and noting that, "North Carolina is ready to go and start work right away on more than $5 billion in transportation projects alone."See what was not mentioned in the Governor's letter? Yep, the word "Clean"!
So, how do we see NC-DOT's list--to make sure that alternative transportation is properly and adequately represented?
There will be
......a certain amount of tension between differing views about what is "clean" vs. "energy efficient" vs. "economic stimulus". An good example pointed out already, being that "shovel ready" is not in-and-of-itself a good criteria for the first two, but may be critical for the latter view. Another discussed here is WTE (incineration).Another interesting question (at least to me) is the politics of the situation; will block grants be given to the states, or will the money go directly to municipalities (similar to FEMA grants), or both? The former being bigger in scale, slower, and less efficient, the latter being smaller, faster and harder to manage.I agree with you, a little light on the subject is a good thing. You can probably get a view of what DoT considerers "Shovel Ready" here:http://www.ncdot.gov/construction/projectsstudies/counties.html?Counties=*I also think that the divisive politics of environment vs. economy will likely make things very lively. IMO the winners will be those that can make their case in both courts.
long-standing issues
The state and local authorities have struggled with this street for years:http://www.dailytarheel.com/news/city/death_renews_traffic_concernMax
That road and those
That road and those apartment buildings and bus stops on either side of it didn't magically appear out of nowhere one day. I don't know the order in which those things were built but isn't the idea that before buildings or bus stops are built someone somewhere considers what the consequences will be? It's really just simple common sense that crossing the road there and many other places in town is dangerous. It's too bad that it takes something bad happening to spur change but that seems to be human nature. The bottom line though is that we're basically forcing people to drive on that road and forcing other people to walk across it and the same goes for lots of other roads around town. One person I feel bad for that few people are talking about is the 17 year old driver who was going 41 MPH, which is slower than mosdt cars go on that road, who is going to have to live with this for the rest of his life even though he did nothing wrong. And a more general lesson, taught again and again in various contexts, is that nature does not care about human ideas of what the world ought to be like. Nature doesn't care whether there are enough bus stops. It simply follows its laws. It's up to people to be aware of that and then plan their world accordingly.
crossing 15-501
Unfortunately safety improvements seem to be initiated by fatalities and even then the time frame is long. I served on the Fordham Blvd safety task force 3? years ago. The pedestrian bridge or tunnel is still an unfunded request.(And yes these type of stuctures in the US cost millions of dollars.) Crosswalks have been funded but we are still waiting. When I served on the Chapel Hill Transportation Board we created a list of safety improvements for town intersections. Eight years later many still have not been completed. Of course the bike lanes on Estes extention were first suggested in the early 1980s....Loren Hintz
Another pedestrian fatality
In continuing this discussion several people have mentioned the role speed plays. Over a five year period, I have noticed that Town officials and our police department give little evidence of being concerned about this except on MLK Boulevard between Estes and Weaver Dairy Road. A whole lot of vehicles exit Fordham Boulevard at the beginning of Franklin at 45mph and continue up Franklin all the way to the Boundary traffic light without reducing their speed very much. I realize that the police may have many more serious problems with which to contend but why not faithfully and regularly stop people going 38 to 40 mph or more within the Town limits? Chapel Hill talks a lot about being pedestrian friendly but its a jungle out there folks and speed kills! Tom
Cell phone use
How about a local ordinance banning hand-held cell phone use while driving? Even if symbolic, this could set a trend.
Worth supporting
WeaverGuy, this is not merely symbolic. It's a lot easier to spot drivers holding cell phones than check for most other infractions (seat belts, lapsed inspections, etc.). Cell phone use undoubtedly interferes with concentration, even when not hand-held. The most mind-blowing statistic has to do with texting while driving! Do go ahead and propose a local ordinance to your town council; it should apply to all drivers regardless of age.
However
I have received vital family and medical info via cell phone while driving......you can't outlaw cell phone use without destroying it's role in emergency communications.....how will the enforcement ordinance deal with emergencies? I think everyone would agree that texting is a no no.
Hands off, at the very least
Was cellphone use implicated in any of the local pedestrian fatalities? I don't remember reading that. Nonetheless, think cellphone use while driving probably does need to be restricted -- at the very least no up-to-ear or hand-held use. The probability of getting emergency info that's too urgent for you to pull over and return a call is miniscule compared to the frequency of carnage created by distracted cellphone users who are just chatting. I would think that such an urgent, emergent call could be considered mitigating circumstance if you were pulled over; and even if not, it would be worth paying the ticket that one time. If you cause an accident, obviously, it would NOT be justified.I have seen one too many drivers wobbling around in the lane in front of me while they jabber, one too many drivers come close to mowing me - as a pedestrian - down because they are chatting rather than watching lights and crosswalks, and one too many yakking drivers tying up traffic because they aren't paying attention to the flow in or out of a central turning lane. It's time. Meanwhile, I'd love to know if there's a universal hand signal for "hang up, already!"
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